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For almost two thousand years mankind has strived to find the answers to the prophecy of many of the scriptures written down in the Holy Bibles. God’s plain for mans salvation in the time of the end must be there somewhere, but where?

God did mean for some to learn the answer to this question. And also the many other answers that have eluded the best of scholars for all these years.

The place to start is written down in the scriptures at: Proverbs 2:1-5 My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God.

Doesn’t sound too hard does it? Well there are some conditions that have to be met first, before God starts to open your minds eye to the true understanding of scriptures.

If you are happy with what you now know from lessening to others and from what you have been able to figure out own your own, then your eyes will not be opened to the real truth of the knowledge of God. Because in this situation you would not be seeking the true knowledge with all your heart.

The next thing one must do is separate yourself from false religion. All religions are false!!! In order to do this one must understand and believe what is stated at Psalms 146:2-3 Do not put your trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.

Once you’ve done this things then you “may” begin to understand.

The “foundation of truth” is what has to be learned first. Without this one cannot understand and accept what is written in the bible as being the real truth.

The essay below (The parable of the minas) is part of what makes up the “foundation of truth” that one must understand and accept before you can learn the true and correct knowledge of God.

Parable of the Minas. Luke 19:11-27

Did Jesus return during the first century, his Second Coming?
The answer to this question is revealed in the understanding of the Parable of the Minas!

Jesus spoke many parables to his followers during the time he was on the earth. He preached the good news of God's heavenly kingdom using parables as illustrations to all that would lessen to him. However, most of the first century Christians did not always understand the correct meaning of these parables, but all did understand he would return during their lifetime, during that generation, and would recompense those that did well by taking them to heaven, and abandon those that did badly.

The minas that Jesus gave out meant knowledge of God, an understanding of the good news of the heavenly kingdom. By using this knowledge one could present it to others and expect some would accept it and become a follower of Jesus.

After Jesus was baptized, he spent forty days and nights in the desert being tempted by Satan. Afterward he started to collect his apostles and started preaching the good news of God’s heavenly kingdom.
However, this information was quite different compared to what the Jewish people was use to hearing. The Mosaic Law covenant was what the Jews were familiar with. So, when Jesus came and started preaching something different than the Mosaic Law covenant, most of the people of Israel rebelled, saying this man must have a demon and many times sought to capture him and put him to death.

When Jesus preached and taught the Jewish people it was in the form of illustrations or parables. Many did not understand the meaning of these parables and thereby did not receive the benefit of the sacred secrets hidden deep within the understanding of such at that time. Jesus had a reason for teaching this way using illustrations he explains this at:
Matthew 13:10-15. “So the disciples came up and said to him: "Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?" In reply he said: "To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted. For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it; and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says, By hearing, you will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, you will look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.

Today, the people of the world have the same problem understanding the scriptures, as did the Jews and Greeks in the first century. However, today’s understanding of the scriptures is quite different than the way they were understood in the first century. In the first century one had to learn and accept the knowledge of God through what Jesus taught, mainly the good news of God’s heavenly Kingdom. Then dedicate their life to Jesus by water emersion (baptism) and by this they were reborn. Their sin had been taken away (forgiven) through the blood of Jesus sacrificial death, and they were no longer under the law, but under undeserved kindness from God. Today, the understanding of the parable of the minas is not understood correctly by any religious organization here on the earth. Only a couple people understand the correct meaning to the parable of the minas at the present time. With the correct understanding one can now prove without dough that Jesus did in fact return in 70 C.E. And he did accomplish all things that he said he would do and also things that were prophesied in the scriptures that he would do. One should be able to positively understand things now that have not been understood by bible scholars and all professed Christians down through the centuries.
As we read the parable of the minas at:
Luke 19: 11-27; “While they were listening to these things he spoke in addition an illustration, because he was near Jerusalem and they were imagining that the kingdom of God was going to display itself instantly. Therefore he said: "A certain man of noble birth traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power for himself and to return.

Jesus is the one who traveled to a distant land (heaven) to secure Kingly Power. God enthroned him (at some point) when he entered into heaven.

13 Calling ten slaves of his he gave them ten minas and told them, Do business till I come.

The minas Jesus is speaking of here represent knowledge of the good news of the heavenly kingdom, and some of the sacred secrets in the scriptures. This knowledge was given to the apostles and the disciples of the first century only, to do business (preach to the Jews and Greeks) till he returned from securing kingly power during “that generation.”

14 “But his citizens hated him and sent out a body of ambassadors after him, to say, we do not want this [man] to become king over us.”

The Jews did not want Jesus to become king over them because they had their own interest in mind. One of these interests was to be freed from the oppression of the Roman solders, and therefore was unable to see that Jesus was in fact the messiah that was prophesied to come.
15 "Eventually, when he got back after having secured the kingly power he commanded to be called to him these slaves to whom he had given the silver money, in order to ascertain what they had gained by business activity.”

“Those slaves that Jesus called to him are the same slaves that he gave the minas to in the first place.”

Only some of the apostles and some disciples of Jesus could understand what Jesus meant when he used this parable. These would be the same ones that upon his return he would call to himself and request what they had accomplished with the minas (knowledge) he gave them prior to him leaving. “This took place when Jesus came back to inspect his followers in the first century.“

Jesus came back to inspect his followers in the first century prior to 70 C.E. All first century Christians were inspected and given instructions on how to correct their deficiencies. This inspection is written down in the book of Revelation, first three chapters. And on another note, this proves without dough, the book of Revelation was written before 70 C.E. Therefore, the book of Revelation if it had been written any time after 70 C.E. it would “not” have been a book of prophecy, it would be a book of History.

16 “Then the first one presented himself, saying, 'Lord, your minas gained ten minas. So he said to him, well done, good slave! Because in a very small matter you have proved yourself faithful, hold authority over ten cities.18 Now the second came, saying, Your minas, Lord, made five minas He said to this one also, You, too, be in charge of five cities. But a different one came, saying, 'Lord, here is your mina, that I kept laid away in a cloth. You see, I was in fear of you, because you are a harsh man; you take up what you did not deposit and you reap what you did not sow. He said to him, 'Out of your own mouth I judge you, wicked slave. You knew did you, that I am a harsh man, taking up what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? Hence why is it you did not put my silver money in a bank? Then on my arrival I would have collected it with interest.”
"With that he said to those standing by, 'Take the mina from him and give it to him that has the ten minas. But they said to him, 'Lord, he has ten minas! 'I say to you to everyone that has, more will be given; but from the one that does not have, even what he has will be taken away.”

What Jesus was explaining here is those that had the information about the kingdom, had to teach it to others, or they would eventually loose that information, it would be taken away from them.

27 Moreover, these enemies of mine that did not want me to become king over them BRING here and slaughter them before me.

In 70 C.E. the last part of the parable of the minas was fulfilled, the Roman Army destroyed one million one hundred thousand Jews and took ninety eight thousand captive out of Israel. There should be no dough in any ones mind as to the fulfillment of this parable in the first century 70 C.E. Israel was no longer a nation, and no government. All were either killed, taken captive or dispersed into the nations in the entire world. This major event, this major pivotal point in time brought about the end of the true Christian era, and the start of the gentile times.

Luke 21:24, For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.

Below, we see how we can use the illustration of the "minas" to help us understand and see this particular illustration had unique fulfillment within the first century.
Jesus gave the "minas" to his first century disciples, and no one else. Therefore, it is logical then Jesus would come back to the same disciples, all done within their lifetimes, that generation, and collect or harvest the "fruits of their labor. Jesus did in fact return to Israel prior to 70 C.E. Since 70 C.E. No minas have been given out to profess Christians. This explains the evident lack of bible understanding in professed "Christians" today.

Verse 15 of Luke 19 explains that Jesus would first secure kingly power for himself. Then he would return to give inspection to his servants before rewarding them with heavenly life and ruler ship in the heavens with himself. When we read Revelation first three chapters, we find it evident that Jesus did in fact, return and inspected his followers. At 70 C.E. he rewarded those that did well by fulfilling their heavenly hope, and abandoning those that did badly.
Those seven congregations (meaning all God’s people) were inspected in the days and months before Israel was destroyed.

Jesus inspected these congregations and then his angle explained to John on the Island of Patmos the things that had to be corrected before he (Jesus) returned, and if they were not corrected, they would be punished severally, even destroyed.

Another very powerful reason to believe that Jesus did in fact return in the first century is; God would never destroy Israel without them first being Judged! So, lets see who judged the twelve tribes of Israel and when? Matthew 19:28

Jesus said to them: “Truly I say to you, In the re-creation, when the Son of man sits down upon his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also yourselves sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Now we know who judged the twelve tribes of Israel. OK, but when?

Since Israel was destroyed at 70 C.E. then the judgment had to have taken place before 70 C.E. There was a great “judgment day,” that took place before the destruction of Israel at 70 C.E. The point I want to make here is; in order for the apostles to be able to set on twelve thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel, they first had to be judged, just after Jesus arrived in his glory and sat down on his glorious throne here on earth.
Furthermore, to seal the fact that this did happen in the first century, Jesus states at:
Matt. 16:27-28 “for the son of man is destined to come in the glory of his father with his angles, and he will recompense each one accordance to his behavior.”
28“Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.”

Does that mean some of those brothers are still "standing there" in 1914...weighting to see Jesus coming in his kingdom? They would be almost 2000 years old. Anyone should see why I say that Jesus did in fact return in the first century, just as he had promised the first century Brothers he would.
With this understanding, this fulfills the words "truly I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur."

All things that Jesus promised did occur within ONE generational period.
See Luke 21:32 The eternal destruction of those that made tribulation for the first century brothers is brought out by Paul at: 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10. He (Paul) says that: "these very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction."
This Judicial Punishment of Everlasting Destruction was given out logically, in 70 C.E. Please notice what Para. 10 says; “at the time he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.”
Is Paul talking about the first century Christians only? Yes he is! Another fact is; the holy ones that Paul is talking about are the first century brothers that were reborn during that time period. Being reborn is not something that can take place at any other time other than during the time period of the first century. This is because Jesus came at that time to save his people, the Jews. As stated at: Matthew 10:5-8 these twelve Jesus sent forth, giving them these orders: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter into a Sa·mar'i·tan city; 6 but, instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 As you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ 8 Cure sick people, raise up dead persons, make lepers clean, and expel demons. You received free, give free.

So, whom did Jesus state that he came to the earth to save…? Matthew 15:23- 24 But he did not say a word in answer to her. So his disciples came up and began to request him: “Send her away; because she keeps crying out after us.” 24 In answer he said: “I was not sent forth to any but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Therefore there should be no reason for anyone to believe that Paul was "not" talking about himself and the first century Christians, only!

When Jesus accomplished all the above, he fulfilled all that he was asked by God, for him to accomplish, as stated at Luke 24:44 “He now said to them: "These are my words which I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written in the law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms about me must be fulfilled.”
And Jesus did in fact fulfill all that was prophesied about him. He did all that he was supposed to do by the year 70 C.E. There is no prophecy found anywhere in the scriptures to the effect the covenant that Jesus concluded with the first century Christians extended any further than 70 C.E. to the abandon unrighteous Jews of Israel, or any of the nations.
At this point, 70 C.E. The covenant that Jesus concluded with the first century Christians "for a Kingdom" terminated here on the earth. They, the first century Christians are still under that covenant in the heavens. At that point, 70 C.E. the Christian era ended, "Terminated" here on earth. All that has come after that period (religious understandings) have been bound in the twines of false religion! God has not given out any insight of sacred secrets (minas) to any profess Christian groups on earth today to this day!

During the past two thousand years all religious organizations have attached themselves to the written words of the books of the history of Jesus and the Act's of his Apostles, the (New Testament). In this way, they all proclaim; what ever is stated in these scriptures, and the covenant that Jesus concluded with the first century Christians "covers them also", it does NOT.
The covenant that God concluded with Jesus (a covenant for a heavenly kingdom) is still in effect, and will continue until Jesus hands the kingdom back over to his God and Father, just after the war, the war with Satan, and the world of mankind that encircle the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city.
Does this mean all mankind? Yes, all mankind that is deceived by Satan will be devoured! This takes place at the end of the days of this system of things.

Matthew 22:41-44 “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him: “David’s.” 43 He said to them: “How, then, is it that David by inspiration calls him ‘Lord,’ saying, 44 ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet”’

Jesus has been ruling as “ruler of the kings of the earth” all this time that he has been sitting at Jehovah’s right hand, according to John at: Revelation 1:4-5, John to the seven congregations that are in the [district of] Asia: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from “The One who is and who was and who is coming,” and from the seven spirits that are before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “The firstborn from the dead,” and “The Ruler of the kings of the earth.

So, who are the kings of the earth? First, we must conceder who was the kings of the earth at the time John wrote this statement.

Jesus had been given all authority on the earth and in heaven at this time and also Jehovah had concluded a covenant with him for a heavenly kingdom. Then Jesus concluded a covenant with the apostles to serve with him in the heavens as kings and priest over the earth. These are the kings of the earth that John is referring to at Revelations 1:4-5.

To see how long Jesus would be ruling at God’s right hand, we read at: 1 Corinthians 15:20-28, “However, now Christ has been raised up from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep [in death]. 21 For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a man. 22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each one in his own rank: Christ the first fruits, =(the first resurrection) afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. =(The second resurrection) 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he [God] has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. (The third resurrection) 25 for he must rule as king until [God] have put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.”

And this is done by Jesus turning the kingdom back over to his God and Father, as stated above, at 1 Corinthians 15:24.

The enthronement for a kingdom that God concluded with Jesus in the first century was not an everlasting enthronement, as you can see above.
From the scriptures below you can see when Jesus was enthroned in heaven to rule over the heavens and also the earth for all things to the congregation, for the thousand years.
Eph 1:15-23 “That is why I also, since I have heard of the faith you have in the Lord Jesus and toward all the holy ones, 16 do not cease giving thanks for you. I continue mentioning you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give your spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him; 18 the eyes of your heart having been enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he called you, what the glorious riches are which he holds as an inheritance for the holy ones, 19 and what the surpassing greatness of his power is toward us believers. It is according to the operation of the mightiness of his strength, 20 with which he has operated in the case of the Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name named, not only in this system of things, but also in that to come. 22 He also subjected all things under his feet, and made him head over all things to the congregation, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills up all things in all.”

As we mentioned above, the enthronement that God gave Jesus in the first century, to rule the heavenly kingdom, and the kings and priest over the earth (the apostles) is not an everlasting enthronement, as you can see at 1 Corinthians 15:20-28.
Jesus will again rule on a throne on the new earth. His throne will be in the New Jerusalem.

So when did the scriptures below take place?

Revelation 11:15-18:

15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

16 And the twenty-four elders who were seated before God upon their thrones fell upon their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.

This took place before Israel was destroyed at 70 C.E.

The kingdom of the world Jehovah God took over. This kingdom is a different kingdom than what Jesus was king over.

The following is a list of some of the things that took place during the time of the end of the Jewish system of things, before and around 70 C.E.

A. Jesus returned to inspect his people, the Jews, Greeks and some people of the nations.

B. Jesus gave inspection report to John, on Patmos.

C. Jesus returned prior to 70 C.E. to resurrect the dead in Christ, and to judge Israel and took all righteous ones to heaven.

D. Jesus also judged all the “unrighteous” that had lived in the past, all the way back to righteous Abel. Even the bad angles of former times were also judged and were destroyed at that time.
E. Jesus destroyed all those that did not want him to become king over them. Having the Roman army destroy one million one hundred thousand Jews and Greeks, and having 98.000 taken off into captivity into all the nations. Then, the start of the gentile times, a time when the nations would trample on Jerusalem. We are still in the gentile time today.
The only ones left in the graves just after 70 C.E. are the righteous ones of old times, and these are judged, and resurrected to life in the new system, at the end of our system of things. And those that have died since 70 C.E.

F. Upon his return to earth, in his glorious kingdom (around 70 C.E.) He sat down on his glorious throne, and then he judged the righteous Jews and Greeks living at that time, first. Then they (the apostles) sat on twelve thrones to help in judging the twelve tribes of Israel, (the sheep and goat judgment.)
At this point during this time period the marriage of the Lamb took place.

G. Jesus accomplished one of the most important things also when he was on the earth he did away with sin! He did this by doing away with the Mosaic Law code. From that time forward, sin has not been charged to anyone.
When this was all accomplished, the destruction of Israel, the end of the Jewish system of things came about. The following was terminated:

1. The true Christian era ended here on the earth.

2. Sin was done away with.

3. The law covenant was done away with.

4. And by doing away with the law covenant, this is how Jesus did away with sin.

5. Most all of the prophecies made in the book of Revelations came about, except for the very last ones that apply only to the end of days.

I'm sure you may be wondering what then is the "HOPE" for righteous mankind today?
In the first place, there is "NO" righteous mankind on earth today. Yes, that's right, NONE!
The Hope for mankind's salvation today is now being revealed in the true and accurate understanding of the scriptures being explained by an individual selected by Jehovah God.

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Pete

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